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JotSpot Google Deal – Who Wins, Why it’s Big:First Thoughts

A few weeks ago the “wikirati” was having dinner with the Enterprise Irregulars in San Francisco, on occasion of the Office 2.0 Conference. Our gracious sponsor was Atlassian’s Mike Cannon-Brookes, and JotSpot’s Joe Kraus showed up, too. Missing from the photo is Socialtext’s Ross Mayfield, who was there for the first part, a briefing for Forrester‘s Charlene Li, but left before dinner. (Hm, did Joe eat Ross’s dinner?smile_tongue )

(photo credit: Dan Farber)

I heard a rumor that one of us in the group had likely gotten a few million dollars richer – and it wasn’t me smile_sad… but Joe Kraus, having sold Jot$pot to Google. The source was credible but of course we had already heard about a Yahoo acquisition, then eBay .. so who knows, after all.

I found the timing ironic, just having come back from a Google briefing where they announced Google Docs & Spreadsheets, which left me largely unimpressed. This is what they were missing, I thought.

Today we know it’s a fact: JotSpot is part of Google. After the quick post, here are my first thoughts around who wins, and what it may mean from a user prospective.

Who Wins:

  • Joe, Graham and team for obviou$ rea$ons.
  • Google, for now they have all the pieces for a small business collaboration suite, if they are smart enough to get rid of the junk and integrate the good pieces together – something they have not done before. I’ll talk about this more a few paragraphs below.
  • Some paying JotSpot customers: Jot has had a funny pricing model, where you can start free, but if you exceed a page limit (10?) you have to upgrade. Most users probably don’t realize that because in Jot everything is a page (i.e. add an event to the Calendar, it’s a new page), 10 pages are essentially nothing, if you wanted to do anything but testing, you’d have to upgrade – until now, that is. From now on paying customers will enjoy their current level of service for free.
  • Competitors: JotSpot’s market direction has never been entirely clear; they focused on consumers and small businesses, but were present on the enterprise market, too. I think it’s fair to assume that they are out of the enterprise market at least for a while, leaving only Atlassian and Socialtext as the two serious players.

Who Loses:

  • Some JotSpot customers who’d rather pay but have their data at a company whose business model is charging for services than enjoy free service by Google whose primary business model is to know everything about you. Clearly there will be some migration from JotSpot to other wiki platforms. Update: the competition isn’t sleeping, see migration offers by Socialtext and Atlassian.
  • Me, for having half-written a post about the merits of pure wikis, Office suites and hybrids, which I can scrap now.

Who Needs to Move:

  • Some of the Office 2.0 Suites, including my friends at Zoho. This may be a surprising conclusion, but bear with me for a while, it will all be clear.

So far the balance is good, we have more winners than loserssmile_regular – now let’s look at what Google should do with JotSpot.

They have (almost) all the right pieces/features fragmented in different products, some of them overlapping though. They should kill off the weak ones and integrate the best – a gargantuan task for Google that so far hasn’t pulled off anything similar. Here’s just some of what I mean:

Google Docs & Spreadsheets:
One of the reasons I found the announcement underwhelming was that there really wasn’t a lot of innovation: two apps (Writely and Google Spreadsheets) put together in a uniform look and a file management system. It’s this very file management system that I found weak: how on earth can I work online and manage a jungle of thousands of documents in a flat, alphabetical list? JotSpot may just be the right solution.

Google Groups:
It’s rare for a mature product to go back to beta, but when Google recently did it, it was for good reason: the Groups which so far has been just a group email mechanism, became a mini community/collaborative platform, offering functionality found in collaborative editors like Writely, Zoho Writers, page cross-linking a’la wikis, file management..etc, combining all this with group email and the ability to share with a predefined group. I seriously considered it a major step forward, likely attracting previously “email-only” users to the native web-interface – and we all know why Google loves that.

JotSpot, the “hybrid” wiki:
This will be the somewhat controversial part. First of all, JotSpot is an attractive, easy-to-use wiki, and I believe that’s the value Google should keep.

Second, they’ve been playing around with the concept of being an application platform, which just never took off. The “applications” available in JotSpot are all in-house developed, despite their expectations the world has not come to develop apps on their platform. (Will this change in Google’s hands?). In JotSpot 2.0 they integrated some of the previously existing applications into user-friendly page types: Calendar, Spreadsheet, Photo ..etc, along with regular (text) wiki pages. This is what I considered Jot’s weak part. Just because a page looks like an application, it does not mean it really is:

  • Try to import an Excel spreadsheet into a Jot Spreadsheet page, you’ll get a warning that it does not import formulas. Well, I’m sorry, but what else is there in a spreadsheet but formulas? The previous name, Tracker was fair: it’s a table where you track lists, but not a spreadsheet.
  • Look at a Calendar page: it does not have any functionality. You cannot do group schedules, can’t even differentiate between personal and group events. It’s just a table that looks like a Calendar – reminding me the “electronic” calendars of corporate executives in the 90’s: the Word template that your secretary maintained for you and printed daily…

I guess it’s clear that I am unhappy with Jot’s “application” functionality, but I like it as a wiki. In this respect I tend to agree with Socialtext’s Ross Mayfield, who believes in best-of-breed (whether that’s Socialtext is another question…). Best-of-breed of everything, be it a wiki or other productivity tools. I’ve also stated that my ‘dream setup’ for corporate collaboration: is a wiki with an integrated Office 2.0 Suite. Why?
Other than its collaborative features, a wiki is a map of our logical thinking process: the cross-linked pages provide structure and narrative to our documents, one could think of it as a textual / visual extension of a directory system, resolving the problem of the flat listing of online files that represent fragments of our knowledge. Of course I am not implying that a wiki is just a fancy directory system… au contraire, the wiki is the primary work and collaboration platform, from which users occasionally invoke point applications for number crunching, presentation..etc.

Now Google has it all: they should kill the crap, and combine the JotSpot wiki, their own Office apps ( a good opportunity to dump the lousy Docs & Spreadsheets name), Calendar, Gmail, the Group email from Google Groups and have the Rolls -Royce of small business collaboration.
(Update: Dan Farber over at ZDNet is pondering the same: Is JotSpot the new foundation for Google Office?)

By now it’s probably obvious what I meant by Zoho having to make their move soon: they either need to come up with their own wiki, or team up with a wiki company. Best-of-breed is a great concept and enterprise customers can pick and match their tools on their own. For the SMB market it makes sense to be able to offer a hosted,integrated Wiki/Office solution though. So far Zoho is ahead of Google in Office 2.0, if they want to maintain that leadership, they will need a wiki one way or another.

Of course I could be way off in my speculation and Google may just have bought the team.. either way, congratulations to Joe, Graham and the JotSpot team. thumbs_up

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Office 2.0: Additional Awards

OK, unlike the real Awards, these are not “official” and in the lighter category. The “Awards” go to… (drumroll):

  • Kevin Warnock, CEO of gOffice for the most honest statement of all: “I warmly recommend everybody to use our competitors’ products, they are fare better than mine“. Kevin concluded his presentation by saying he wasn’t quite sure what to do with his company, and invited any advice …
    Oh, and how could I forget: for offering the gOffice domain to Google for free.
  • Sridhar Vembu, CEO of Zoho/Advantnet, for coining the most origical term when the presenters experienced lousy connections: “office.slow
  • Ivaylo Lenkov, CEO of SiteKreator, for giving all participants a free Business Account (now, I wonder if it is the 450 who actually were there, or the 4,600 who voted? If the latter, I understand why the site is down for now …)
  • Mike Cannon-Brookes, CEO of Atlassian, for hosting the Enterprise Irregulars + a few analysts + his competitors to a private dinner and not using the opportunity to pitch his business
  • Michael McDerment, CEO of FreshBooks, for letting the cat out of the bag.
  • [your nomination here] – really. please recommend more “candidates” and I’ll post them here.

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Office 2.0 Awards: A Quiz

What do the following have in common?

  • Julia French
  • A yet-to-be-built bridge in Budapest
  • EchoSign

OK, to avoid any unnecessary excitement, here’s the answer: they all got far too many votes.

Socialtext’s Julia French and Stirr’s Joey Wan were the two finalists in ValleyWag’s Ms. Web 2.Ooh! contest when a Julia-fan (or not?) created a script and bombed the poll with 8000 or so votes.  Julia really didn’t need this “support” – hey, I voted fo her smile_wink – and certainly did not need the disqualification as a result of spam by someone else. 

The Hungarian government announced an Internet poll to come up with the most popular name for a bridge to be built in Budapest, over the river Danube.  Little did they know the Internet does not know geographical boundaries: Stephen Colbert publicly called his loyal viewers to vote on him, and he ended up winning with 17 million votes.  Not bad, except for the fact that the entire population of Hungary is 10 million, and Budapest has about 2 million residents.

EchoSign is an interesting company that simplifies the process of getting contracts/documents signed, distributed, archived. ( I wrote about them here).  They received the “Best Of Show” award at the Office 2.0 Conference yesterday. See a partial snapshot of the poll here.

Overwhelming win. A little too overwhelming.  The Office 2.0 Conference was a success, instead of the originally expected 200 participants the organizers managed to squeeze in 350 – but where is the other 4,300 coming from? 

Echosign did not need this, just like Julia did not need it. The Office 2.0 Conference did not need it.  The real participants who voted for their favorites deserve better. 

 

 

 

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Office 2.0 Awards

Live from the Office 2.0 Conference, where the winners of the audience votes are just being announced:

Best Ofice 2.0 Suite:  Joyent

Best of Show:  EchoSign

Best Demo:

#1 Vyew ;    #2 Wufoo;  #3 Koral

Congratulations to the winners – and all other presenters!

Update (10/13) Unfortunately there was some trouble with the voting.

 

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SaaS: The Cat is Out of the Bag

I’m sitting at the Office 2.0 conference watching a barrage of 5-minute product demos. FreshBooks‘s CEO just dropped a bomb at the last 20 seconds in his presentation: being software as as service, they can aggregate customers’ data, categorize it by industry, size ..etc, and once they do that, why not turn it into a product?

Customers can receive generalized metrics as well as benchmark themselves against their peers.

Stop here. Think about it. This is big. It’s not about FreshBooks. It’s *the* hidden business model enabled by SaaS. It is so logical, we all had to know it would be coming – but carefully avoids talking about it. No wonder… SaaS adoption is growing but still at an early stage, and security, trust concerns are huge. The last thing software vendors want is to feed those concerns, i.e get their customers worried about the competition accessing their data.

The benefits are obvious: all previous benchmarking efforts were hampered by the quality of source data, which, with all systems behind firewalls was at least questionable. SaaS providers will have access to the most authentic data ever, aggregation if which leads to the most reliable industry metrics and benchmarking. Yet it raises a number of serious questions: How far can they go? What are the security / confidentiality / privacy implications? Are they reselling data that the customer owns in the first place? If the customer owned the core data, who owns the aggregate?

The business of metrics, benchmarking is potentially huge, but it can’t take off until the industry, along with customers, can answer these questions – and more.

Update (10/16): I’ve just checked who else talks about this Unheralded SaaS benefit, and voila! Two posts from fellow Enterprise Irregulars, ex-Gartner Vinnie Mirchandani and Yankee Group’s Jason Costello.

Update (10/30): Read Dennis on Valuing Data and on Freshbooks.

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Office 2.0 Announcements: Google, Zoho

With the Office 2.0 Conference underway, we can expect a flurry of announcements, product launches in the next two days – no wonder that two companies, Zoho and Google jumped ahead and “preannounced”.

Zoho is releasing new products at a breakneck speed (see my recent posts From Office Suite to Business Suite and One is More than Six: Zoho Suite Single Sign-on): today’s announcement (well, strictly speaking, tomorrow’s but TechCrunch already reported it) is the availability of ZohoX, the online version of Zoho Virtual Office, a communication / collaboration product. The TechCrunch review is extensive; so instead of writing a “me-too” review, let me ponder about what it means.

I already declared the Zoho Suite complete when they added Show (think PowerPoint) to the previously existing Sheet (can you say Excel?) and Writer (you know this one…). As we will most likely witness at the Office 2.0 Conference starting tomorrow, the number of contenders in the online Office space is mushrooming. Most are one-product wonders though. Of course one can pick the “best-of-breed” (or favorite?) individual applications, deal with different sites, different UI, and different sign-on information, and still not enjoy the seamless flow and real-time data updates that Zoho demonstrated between the spreadsheet, database, document and presentation. But then we haven’t talked about email / communication / virtual desktop yet: with ZohoX, to the best of my knowledge Zoho is the only on to be able to offer a full combo. That’s still not the end of story; Zoho has products in the world of transactional, “enterprise” software: Zoho CRM actually encompasses CRM + ERP functions, essentially covering all business functions except accounting.

All these are free now, and CEO Sridhar Vembu maintains there will always be a free version for individuals. So how will Zoho make money? They will have multiple options: enterprise software guru Vinnie Mirchandani considers the Office Suite a good candidate to be used even by large enterprises, and if they so chose, they will also be able to become a unique provider of full business solutions (Office, Communication, ERP+CRM) to small businesses.

Google’s announcement isn’t really a new product, more the merger / integration of their in-house developed spreadsheet and Writely, a capable online editor acquired in the spring. I was lucky enough (or so I thought) to be invited to a pre-announcement briefing in the company of Mike Arrington, Steve Gilmor, Rafe Needleman and a few other bloggers. This turned out to be a good lesson: if you accept the invitation and play the game, you get to be the last one to write about the news: by the time we sat down, the embargoed release was leaked. The announcement itself is quite underwhelming, the most significant part is the fact that it’s coming from Google: Writely and Google Spreadsheet is now one product, under the fantastic (?) name of Google Docs & Spreadsheets. As (if) Google adds new products, I wonder if the name will evolve to Google Docs&Spreadsheets&Presentations, then to Google Docs&Spreadsheets&Presentations&Databases.. etc.

About the only improvement is the ability to list, search, sort, tag ..etc all files, be it text or spreadsheet together is certainly nice, but that’s where integration ends at this point. The Googlers mentioned users with up to a thousand documents – there has to be a more intuitive way to list them than a simple alphabetical list – for example grouping by tags (labels in gmail terminology).

I regret losing Writely’s “face” – the new appearance is corporate blue uniform that could have been done by IBM, and as for the name, it would make Microsoft’s naming guys proud ….

All in all, I can’t get excited by this – the recent Google Groups announcement was far more positive, IMHO, although it largely went unnoticed.

Update (9/12): Watch this ScobleVid

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From Office Suite to Business Suite

Zoho is definitely getting an increasing share of attention.  No wonder – they are releasing product updates at a rate others do press releases.  The introduction of a single sign-on  to six of their Office 2.0 applications generated quite some buzz on a normally silent weekend.  TechCrunchZDNetRead/Write WebAccMan Proyours truly – the usual suspects, one might say, but when “good-old-fashioned” ex-Gartner Vinnie Mirchandani pays attention, you know something is brewing here.

Richard MacManus claims Zoho Moving Towards A Full Web Office Suite.   Previously both myself and IT|Redux claimed the Zoho Suite complete.  So are we there yet?  Well, MS Office was called a suite long before Word, Excel or Powerpoint could really talk to each other. It was ugly, messy, lossy copy/paste for years – Zoho demonstrated a far better, seamless flow and real-time data updates between a spreadsheet, database, document and presentation at the recent IBDNetwork event, and I’m sure we’re in for some surprise at the the Office 2.0 Conference this week. 

But let’s look a bit further, and we’ll find that Zoho has a few more tricks in their hat.  Near-term we can expect a web-based version of Virtual Office, a communication/collaboration solution (think Outlook), which really makes the Office / Productivity suite full-rounded. 

How about transactional business systemsZoho has a CRM solution – big deal, one might say, the market is saturated with CRM solutions.  However, what Zoho has here goes way beyond the scope of traditional CRM: they support Sales Order Management, Procurement, Inventory Management, Invoicing – to this ex-ERP guy it appears Zoho has the makings of a CRM+ERP solution, under the disguise of the CRM label.

Think about it.   All they need is the addition Accounting, and Zoho can come up with an unparalleled Small Business Suite, which includes the productivity suite (what we now consider the Office Suite) and all process-driven, transactional systems: something like NetSuite + Microsoft, targeted for SMB’s.

 

(Disclaimer: although I have an advisory relationship with Zoho, the above is purely my own speculation)

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One is More than Six: Zoho Suite Single Sign-on

A few months ago I declared the Zoho Suite complete with the addition of Zoho Show  to the already existing Zoho Write and Zoho Sheet.  The Zoho team did not slow down, they kept on pumping out new products at an amazing speed – at this point there are 11 Zoho branded products accessible from their main portal, and I know of a few more in the pipeline.  

The company’s strategy has been for most of this year to focus on developing the individual products, and the next step will be to tighten the integration between them.  That said, the individual products work together pretty well, as they demonstrated at the Office 2.0 Under the Radar event, presenting a seamless flow and real-time data updates between a spreadsheet, database, document and presentation.

A hot item on users wish-list was the creation of a single sign-on: if it’s really a Suite, why do I have to log into the individual products separately?  In fact some of these products required a username, others the full email address to log in.  Not anymore: as of today, users of Zoho’s Writer, Sheet, Show, Planner, Creator & Chat will only have to sign in once, and can seamlessly surf between all these products.  If so far you’ve been using the same email address to sign in, you’re just fine, otherwise you may want to read the consolidation details here.

As for integration, I believe we’ll see more next week at the Office 2.0 Conference, where Zoho presents at the One Day in the Life of an Office 2.0 Worker session.   Will you be there?

 

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Google Groups Beta Brings Collaboration

Google Groups has a new version: no, it’s not 2.0, it’s called  – what a surprise – Google Groups Beta.

There are aesthetic as well as functional improvements.  The appearance of individual Groups can be customized, one can pick from a dozen or so standard themes, upload a logo and change colors/fonts ..etc.

Most important are the functional improvements, first of all the Pages feature, which allows for easy collaboration, e.g. the editing of an article by group members using an easy, WYSIWYG-style editor.  From the pages you can link to other pages or external sites.  When you save your page, you can optionally notify group members, who can, depending on what access rules you set up (per page) read or edit it.

There is a new Files area, not too generous though, with a limit of 100MB – are we seeing signs of Freemium?  Paying for storage wouldn’t be consistent with Google’s strategy, or at least what we’ve seen so far.  Document versioning would be nice in the Files area (something I’ve ranted about recently).

The Members area allows the creation of fairly detailed profiles, with a photo and link to your own site/blog. It also provides statistics of your group activity.

None of the individual features are radically new; what’s nice is how they are wrapped together.  To continue with my example of collaboratively editing an article, so far we could do it using a number of tools, like Google’s own Writely, or Zoho Writer, or a wiki, but the issue is how to share: specifically, who to share with. Most of these platforms would allow either public sharing, or inviting users individually, but there is no way to share such a document with a predefined set of users, i.e. members of my email group.  Of course you could always opt for a complete solution, like Central Desktop, which has collaborative editing, groups, calendar, wiki, project management, tasks ..etc – but your have to pay for it. 

Wrapping it up, in a major step forward,  Google Groups which so far has been just a group email mechanism, becomes a mini community/collaborative platform, likely attracting previously “email-only” users to the native web-interface – and we all know why Google loves that.  

Update (9/6):  The revamped Google Groups fits very well Google’s new  “Features, not products”   initiative.

 

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Socialtext 2.0: Usability vs. Usefulness

Socialtext recently announced version 2.0 of it’s enterprise wiki. The two big news are a completely revamped user interface, aiming to make Socialtext a lot easier to use, and the publication of the REST APIs to support integration and mashup development. For more information watch this screencast by CEO Ross Mayfield, and see this review at TechCrunch.

The revamped UI is a huge deal, and it’s been long overdue. For some background check out Jeff Nolan on the “UI sucks” issue. One may agree or disagree, but as long as there are reviews like this:

I have tried on at least four separate occasions to use and like Socialtext but I can’t…I just can’t use this application.” – well, you definitely know you have a problem.

Interestingly enough Socialtext, the company realizes how important ease of use is, and they are contributing resources to bringing WYSIWYG Wikiwyg editing to Wikipedia. But let’s focus on Socialtext, the product for now.

The new UI is aesthetically pleasing, has nice colors (somewhat reminds me of JotSpot’s blue), but most importantly it’s clean, simple, in short it passes the “blink test“.

thumbs_up The Home Page is of key importance in the new release: a Dashboard gives users a quick glance of a shared whiteboard, personal notepad, customizable watchlist, a listing of what’s new (i.e. recently changed pages) as well as the users active workspaces (i.e. wikis). The Home page has become the central place where you can access all extended features, like a listing of all pages, files, tags, or change settings. You can start adding information using the New Page button, which, just like the Edit and Comment buttons on all subsequent pages clearly stands out, again, passing the “blink test”. I love the new colored side-boxes for tags, inbound links and attachments.

I can’t emphasize enough how important inbound links (backlinks in the previous releases) are – a wiki is all about associating pieces of information with each other, and the inbound link shows you where the information on the current page is used elsewhere. In wiki systems without this feature on would manually have to create them, a task most often forgotten (as it does not fit the natural flow of creating new pages), thus those systems don’t offer the full potential of a wiki. I can’t for the life of me understand why inbound links haven’t yet made it into the standard feature-set in JotSpot 2.0, when it’s been long (for more than a year) available as a downloadable plugin on the Jot Development wiki – but how many users search the development wiki? In contrast, Atlassian’s Confluence has long supported incoming links.

We know from Ross and others that in creating the new design the primary objective was to increase ease of use, and in doing so Socialtext conducted customer usability studies. The number one customer request was to reduce clutter, which was quite abundant in Socialtext 1.x. They certainly achieved this objective – perhaps too much. Playing around with the beta I run into trouble trying to create a page from an already existing page – I simply did not find the New Page button. “This is something too obvious to be a bug”, I thought, and Ross proved me right: It’s all part of “getting rid of the clutter” and doing what customers had requested.

Socialtext believes this helps eliminate a frequent problem: the existence of orphan pages in wikis. (Orphan pages are valid, existing pages that no inbound hyperlinks point to; thus it’s difficult to find them, other than by searching or listing all pages).

I am not sure binding users to the Home page is a good idea (it’s not just the “new page”button, all other extended features/tools are anchored here). To me the natural flow is typically top-down: one would create a subpage from the parent where the summary level thought flows, thus creating a parent-child relationship. In a business wiki, where after a while you’ll end up having a large number of pages, the further away you are from the right place (the parent), the more likely you will forget to create a link to the new page, thus may end up with a proliferation of orphan pages.

Interestingly enough, the most elegant solution to the orphan problem comes from two products at the opposite end of the spectrum: Wetpaint, the friendliest consumer/community focused wiki (actually a blend of wiki-forum-blog features) and Atlassian’s Confluence, the market-leading enterprise wiki. Other than the standard user-created links within the flow of text, these products also offer an automatic index of subpages along with each page. JotSpot‘s 2.0 release offers a less foolproof but reasonable solution: when you create a page by using the “new page” button, technically it becomes an orphan, however when you hit “save”, you’ll find yourself at the parent level where a quick alert pops up proposing to create a link to the child page you just set up.

There’s a fool-proof way of creating new pages that can’t become orphans: create a link before the page, and forget the “new page” button. While typing, wherever you want to branch out to a new page, insert a link to the page about to be created, typically by highlighting text and using the “link” icon, or in JotSpot you have the option of simply typing a WikiWord (also referred to as CamelCase), it becomes a link automatically. This “trick” creates a shell, essentially a placeholder for your new page: you can add content later, but since it’s already linked to, it can’t become orphan. All the wikis I’ve talked about allow this method, but Wetpaint and Confluence don’t really need it, since they provide navigation based on the auto-index of child pages. (Update [2/17/07]: I’ve just discivered a perfect existing term for what I am trying to epxlain here: LinkAsYouThink.)

Back to Socialtext, perhaps there is more to the new design than the desire to create a very simple, clutter-free user experience: the underlying philosophical difference between hierarchical structures, parent-child data relationship vs. everything being flat (created at the home page ) and only associated through links embedded in page text. But hierarchy, structure are not necessarily evil; only pre-existing ones are.

smile_wink We tend to think in structures, need organizing principles – there is a reason why books have a table of contents. Wikis, as unstructured as they are in “virgin state” are a good tool to create structure – our own one. The assumption of a parent-child relationship mimics our usual workflow, and it does not impose a rigid structure, since through through cross-linking we can still have alternate structures, no matter where we create a page.

Perhaps that’s the fundamental difference between Socialtext and the other wikis I’ve mentioned – which would explain why it doesn’t have breadcrumbs (navigational line at the top): this standard feature of all the other three products (Confluence, Wetpaint, Jot) does not really fit in Socialtext’s flat world.

My other issue about with Socialtext 2.0: I really would have expected to see document versioning by now: when you upload an attachment (typically doc, ppt or xls file), Jot and Confluence shows the current version, indicating the most recent version number and the user who changed the document last. Click for details, and you get all previous versions and details. Confluence even allows you to label every instance of the attachment with a comment. Socialtext simply lists all documents with the same title (or not), not recognizing them as version of the same file.

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Finally, a minor gripe: it would be nice to see threaded commenting, like Wetpaint and Confluence does, allowing users to enter comments to a page itself or to a previous comment. Socialtext, just like Jot, only has a flat list of comments.

Summing up, the new Socialtext 2.0 Beta is really good-looking, but in my view limits functionality for (perceived) ease of use. That said, it’s a beta, and Ross conformed repeatedly that they are seriously evaluating test user comments and it’s possible that the final 2.0 release will have a better solution for the edit/navigation/orphan problem.

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Last, but not least, let’s revisit document versioning. It’s very-very important. In my “prior life” where as corporate VP I introduced a wiki-based intranet to the company, we used it for document management first, before exploring more of the native wiki functions. But here’s the catch: document versioning in wikis solves a very old problem, but solves it on the bases on yesterday’s (OK, today’s ) technology. Even with proper versioning one has to download documents, locally update them, then upload them back up to the wiki. The process is a lot easier using Office 2.0 applications, be it an editor, spreadsheet or presentation. There is no uploading/downloading, all updates happen online, if need be by multiple users at the same time, and instead of attaching them, one would simply link to, say a Zoho Sheet or Presentation from the wiki.

My ‘dream setup’ for corporate collaboration: a wiki with an integrated Office 2.0 Suite. The next step will be the wiki integration with ‘traditional’ , transactional enterprise systems – that’s a little further away (although … reading this, who knows?

smile_wink ) I hope to discuss many of these concepts with my readers next week in San Francisco, at the Office 2.0 Conference.

Update (9/5): For more insight read Socialtext 2 Design.

Update (11/1): Usability review on InfoSpaces.